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Lower lip position moving?

It is not discussed too often, but in fact each note fingered on the horn has an “optimal” spot (for lower lip) on the reed. It’s worth covering the edge of the reed with your lower lip for lower notes, whilst uncovering the read is done for higher notes - this allows more of the higher overtones to come out. That is accomplished by lower lip forward and backward movement (not up and down, which results in “biting”): less of the lip’s fleshier area and lip rolling away from the edge of the reed for higher tones (let’s say beginning with higher B - above the staff) and more of the fleshier area and rolling in the direction of the edge of the reed in case of lower tones. You can read more about the lip movement and embouchure in Chapter 6 of David Liebman’s “Developing a personal saxophone sound”

What do you think about this suggestions and what is your experience? I am eager to know how the stuff with lower lip works for you.

[article] The Embouchure

Embouchure is one of the main things affecting the quality and timbre of our sax sound. It includes lips,teeth,jaw tongue as well as almost all the muscles contained in our mouth and face. Embouchure affects both the air stream (finally) coming to your mouth and the characteristics of reed’s vibration. If one has some embouchure faults, it immediately results in unsteady, week and muffled sound and lack of control. Who wants to listen to and to produce that kind of sound ? I bet no one does. So here are a few words about embouchure appropriate for sax playing,

In other words, saxophonists’ embouchure is basically just “how do we hold the mouthpiece in our mouth”. Here is a simple algorithm:

  1. Place the top front teeth on the mouthpiece making sure they are centralized. You can figure the distance between the tip of the mouthpiece and your teeth only by trial and error, as it varies from player to player. Perhaps a good point to start with is about 10 millimeters and then to “find your own place” on the mouthpiece you are comfortable with.

  2. Slightly turn in the lower lip as if you are saying the syllable “v”.

  3. I prefer to obtain the right position of my tongue and lips by imagining that I am pronouncing ö (german o umlaut), as it combines approved and advised by saxophone pedagogues “o” position of lips with “ee” (like in english word “eat”) position of tongue, which makes the air stream (and, consequently, the sound) more focused.

  4. Finger the middle C or B note and blow your horn pronouncing “four” (according to Sonny Rollins) or “vo” (according to Eugene Rousseau) or “vö” (according to me)

But the main thing to keep in mind is that the embouchure should be “natural”. That means firm but relaxed, feeling maybe like putting a popsicle in your mouth; and let’s remember to avoid putting pressure on the reed with your bottom lip.

Playing long tones every day in the beginning of your sax practise session is an indispensable exercise for both our embouchure and breathing.

[article] Tonguing

Most of the sounds played by saxophonists start and end with tonguing, so I want to share with you some exercises which helped me (and, I hope, will help you) to achieve good tonguing technique. Feel free to add your exercises and suggestions as well.

  • Ex.1 Sing the “doo” syllable (pitch is not of importance for the exercise, but don’t change it during the process) repeating it but not interrupting, think of it as singing one long note. But don’t move your lips or jaw. Imagining that you are a ventriloquist really helps to get the right feeling. Notice that your tongue moves straight up and down. That is exactly the way notes are to be tongued on sax

  • Ex.2 Blow some note from the middle range of your horn for 3-5 seconds and then move your tongue up and touch the edge of the read still maintaining air pressure. Then pull the mouthpiece quickly out of your mouth. You should get a rush of air that quickly “escapes” your mouth cavity. If the air stream is weak, then you didn’t manage to keep the pressure behind your tongue. Practise this exercise till you succeed in it, as keeping the pressure even when you don’t play a sound is of much importance for right tonguing

  • Ex.3 Blow again some note from the middle range for 3-5 seconds and then move the tongue up to the read touching it (remember touching somewhere near the edge but not the middle part or the end of the reed) and then immediately down. Keep the speed of tonguing (it’s worth starting from “note tonguing” every 4 seconds). Strive for continuous sound, tonguing should not affect the quality of it.

That exercises I found in John O’Neil’s book long time ago and I felt I benefited from practising them even though I had been already playing saxophone for many years.

When actually playing some music, remember thinking of tonguing like separating long tone into parts (but not making separate sounds, so not splitting in any case) rather than ending every note and beginning another one. The air pressure should be constant and the sound stops immediately when you put your tongue on the read but it continues again immediately when you put it off.

As a warm-up I practise finishing notes both with tongue or without it (maybe adding a small vibrato on the end of the tone for jazz music).

I’ve described the basics of tonguing, but, of course, “in real life” sometimes you need to tongue something stronger and not only “touching the very tip of the read”. In fact different areas of tongue when touching different areas of reed (not only the tip) provide wide range of articulations. See Chapter 5 of “Developing A Personal Saxophone Sound” by David Liebman.

Thematic sets of scores

Here are some links to arrangements grouped by topics in alphabetical order (thanks to Mr.Sax-O-Beat).

Arctic Monkeys https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3961316
Blink-182 https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3954021
Christmas Scores https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3961291
Coldplay https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3961256
Fall Out Boy https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3954016
Gorillaz(https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/4808640
Marching Band Arrangements https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/4802554
Panic! At The Disco https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3961221
My Chemical Romance https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3953461
Rock (classic rock) Scores https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3961331

Composed Works by Mr. Sax-O-Beat (https://musescore.com/user/1488461/sets/3961351)

Post your arrangements in the group, paste the link and description in comments here, and we will add your score and/or topic to this post, so it would be easy for all interested users to find it

2k17 Rap / R&B Mix

Wassup musescore family. So if you haven't heard already I'll be dropping a 2k17 Rap / R&B Mix consisting of some of the hottest & most popular tunes of the year. It's a priority of mine to entertain my followers & supporters so comment below what songs you'd like to hear in this year's mix! Hurry & reply because it'll be dropping very soon & must be tunes from this year! COMMENT!

2k17 Rap / R&B Mix

Wassup musescore family. So if you haven't heard already I'll be dropping a 2k17 Rap / R&B Mix consisting of some of the hottest & most popular tunes of the year. It's a priority of mine to entertain my followers & supporters so comment below what songs you'd like to hear in this year's mix! Hurry & reply because it'll be dropping very soon & must be tunes from this year! COMMENT!

Christmas Contest - Win Prizes!!

Hey Everyone,

I thought it might be a fun idea to create a contest to arrange a Christmas song. It can be for drum corps, or marching band, or whatever... but the rules are simple:

1 - You must be a member of this group
2 - You must post your arrangement here
3 - You must submit before December 20, 2017

It is also important to mention that it is not necessarily the best arrangement that can win, but the most interesting or unique (not necessarily technically the best) can be chosen.

The judge for the contest will be Key Poulan!

There will also be 2 categories - 18 and Under and Over 18.

First prize winner in each category will receive the DCI 2017 Blu-Ray Deluxe Bundle (https://store.dci.org/collections/audio-video/products/dcirnv8103-2017-blu-ray-deluxe-bundle)

Second prize winners will receive 2 tickets to any DCI show (except finals).

Third prize winners will receive a DCI sweatshirt (or from the drum corps of your choice).

I have also posted a template that can be used as a starting point. You can feel free to use this basic arrangement as a starting point for your own arrangement of the same song:

https://musescore.com/daniel/scores/4834952

Current List of DCI Arrangers & Composers

Thought it could be interesting to put together a current list for reference of all DCI arrangers & composers by corps and role for 2018 season. I will update this first post as we go along (and will try to invite each of them to this group :-) ).

// World Class //

THE ACADEMY
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BLUE DEVILS
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BLUE KNIGHTS
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BLUE STARS
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BLUECOATS
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BOSTON CRUSADERS
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THE CADETS
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CAROLINA CROWN
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THE CAVALIERS
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COLTS
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CROSSMEN
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GENESIS
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JERSEY SURF
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MADISON SCOUTS
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MANDARINS
Brass Arranger: Key Poulan - https://musescore.com/keypoulan
Percussion Arranger: Darren VanDerpoel
Front Ensemble Arranger: Bryan Nungaray

MUSIC CITY
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OREGON CRUSADERS
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PACIFIC CREST
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PHANTOM REGIMENT
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PIONEER
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// Open Class //

7TH REGIMENT
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THE BATALLION
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BLUE DEVILS B
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BLUE DEVILS C
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COLT CADETS
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COLUMBIANS
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GOLD
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GOLDEN EMPIRE
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GUARDIANS
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HEAT WAVE
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IMPULSE
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INCOGNITO
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LEGENDS
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LES STENTORS
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LOUSIANA STARS
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RAIDERS
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RIVER CITY RYTHM
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SHADOW
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SOUTHWIND
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SPARTANS
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VANGUARD CADETS
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WATCHMEN
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Superior Music Publications

Hey everybody, I hope everybody has had a great year. I am here to show you MML Users that there is a new music publishing business coming to a computer near you.

I am the founder of Superior Music Publications, and I am here to share with you that I have a dream to make bands big and small, as good as they can be!

I am working on getting funding for the website so that the website can have it's domain and I won't have to face any legal trouble with the law.
superior-music-publications.webnode.com

I am working hard to make the website better and better and for it to be the coolest web design possible, I am asking for ideas, and/or feedback on what this website can be.

The staff for Superior Music have amazing experience and I am very lucky to have a team of people to come and help me make this dream a reality.

Last but not least,
Email the company (One of the writers will respond to the emails, I promise.) with show ideas, anything that you think that we can write and give the best music to the people that will listen to.

Thank you for your time.

Christmas Show Mvt 1

In need of a writer for Battery and Pit percussion for my currently unnamed Christmas show. The first movement is pretty much complete. The first movement features Carol of the Bells and a small portion of We Wish You a Merry Christmas, as that is foreshadowing the theme of the finale. It is majorly in 3/4, with the last section being in 4/4. There is two drum breaks in the opener, one being right after the hit, and after the runs in section C. If interested, please let me know!

MuseScore Drum Corps Event

Hey! I just read that MuseScore is hosting an event in which people can submit arrangements for drum corps for a chance to win prizes. I just have some questions.
How long should the arrangement be?
Are all instruments supported by DCI supported for the event? (french horn, euphonium, etc)
Does the piece have to be an arrangement? Or can it be original?
Thank you!

Matching Wind Arrangers with Percussion Arrangers

It seems one of the most common themes in this thread are wind arrangers looking to collab with percussion arrangers. Let's get you hooked up!

Anyone looking to collaborate with other users to write battery or front ensemble parts, I suggest that you join the official Marching Percussion group and post a request in this discussion there - https://musescore.com/groups/4833679/discuss/4845310