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Things learned using a church pipe organ

Over the last 6 months of preparing music to make MIDI files then performing it during church services, I (a brass player and singer, not an organist or accompanist) have learned a few things. I hope my sharing helps others while bringing a smile.

1) Most hymns found in your hymnal don’t take into consideration that the singers occasionally need to breathe. Unless yours consists solely of Olympic swimmers, marathoners, and other world class athletes. Moreover, an organist or accompanist who has been doing it for years now innately knows where to add a slight hesitation to allow the congregation to get a breath. Adding these pauses to an electronic score - not so easy. First, you need to find the appropriate duration. Then, since these programs don’t like having more than 4 beats in a measure when you set a 4/4 time signature, you have to realign by substituting equivalent valued notes (quarter note becomes 2 tied eighths or dotted eighth tied to a sixteenth, etc.) to get the music back in sync.

2) Talking about sync, because you are throwing in extra beats for an intro and pauses between verses, to get the best chance at alignment you convert any beat to an equivalent series of tied notes when the value is greater than a single beat based on the time signature. That means nothing bigger than a quarter note for 3/4 or an eighth for 6/8. Surprisingly, this significantly speeds up the note entry process for most hymns. Since the goal is to generate a MIDI file for performing, the prettiness of the score is unimportant.

3) Adding a 1 beat rest at the start and a 1 beat rest at the end makes the copy and paste operation to add multiple verses and an intro easier with most software.

4) A virtual pipe organ is not the same as a physical pipe organ and allowances have to be made. When playing a score, the organist doesn’t actually give notes their full value as it takes time to lift a finger then press the next note’s key. Otherwise, successive notes of the same pitch would have the new note ending exactly at the same time as the new note is starting. If that occurred, the notes effectively become tied together. To avoid this, Musescore shaves 1 clock tick(there are usually 480 ticks in a quarter note) off the end of each note, adding a gap but allowing the next note to start on time. A REAL PIPE ORGAN IS NOT A VIRTUAL PIPE ORGAN!!! 1 tick is not enough time for it to close then open the air flow to a pipe. Depending on the age and condition of the pipe organ, this might require 10-20 ticks, perhaps more. Fortunately, unless the music has moving parts against the melody, most hymns only need the melody line adjusted as this is what most of the congregation focuses on. The 2 methods I’ve used so far are a) manually going through the melody line of the MIDI file and shortening when the pitch is the same or b) modifying the score by shaving a sixteenth off then adding a tied dotted triplet sixteenth followed by a triplet thirty-second rest. Method b is easier except those shorter duration tied notes directly contribute to the alignment and synchronization problems in points 1 and 2. Still, on a song that needs many adjustments, it’s still faster. (Note: method b adds a 20 tick gap. Reducing the note duration in half would reduce that to a 10 tick gap. That would require a software that allows using sixty-fourth notes.)

If you have access to an organ that also plays MIDI files, I’d love to hear any tips you have!

Voicings on Scores

It would be nice to see organ voicings/stop settings on more scores. If using GrandOrgue or Hauptwerk, the organ selected and its stops would be interesting.

As someone just starting my journey with pipe organs, it would be helpful to hear how others select which stops are used in absence of marked directions from the composer or when the recommended stop is not available.