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Imagine if you could save lyrics with midi export as 2 options: "KAR file (MIDI File with lyrics)" and "KAR file with chords"

This is a request that goes back to at least 2015 and I have formally requested this feature again (see https://musescore.org/en/node/290163) - to create KAR files, and kar files with chords. This would allow us to use a real Karaoke Player, such as the free van Basco player (http://www.vanbasco.com/karaokeplayer/) app for practice, performance, learning, teaching, etc. It's high time for this feature after 10 years.

Do you realize the numbers of  school teachers, and church choir leaders would would find this useful for teaching, conducting parishioners, choruses etc.? And why not lyrics from several voices simultaneously? Why, people might even have FUN with these files (heaven forbid)!!

Do you realize how useful these files could be with karaoke software?! I am a programmer and I see the arguments as "beside-the-point" and not at all insurmountable.  In fact, there may be no reason why more than one part's lyrics couldn't be saved and scrolled in a karaoke app in parallel.

Read my request where I address the programmer's objections. With all the lyric-typing I do I am disappointed/insulted that I can't export the lyrics with the midi. I have searched high and low and the closest software I can find to a solution is Serenade (http://www.1manband.nl/serenade/index.htm) which is far from as perfect for this as MS would be. Please help promote the idea!

Imagine if you could save lyrics with midi (Karaoke files) and export as 2 options: "KAR file (MIDI File with lyrics)" and "KAR file with chords"

This is a request that goes back to at least 2015 and I have formally requested this feature again (see https://musescore.org/en/node/290163 ) - to create KAR files, and kar files with chords. This would allow us to use a real Karaoke Player, such as the free van Basco player (http://www.vanbasco.com/karaokeplayer/ ) app for practice, performance, learning, teaching, etc. It's high time for this feature after 10 years.

Do you realize the numbers of  school teachers, and church choir leaders would would find this useful for teaching, conducting parishioners, choruses etc.? And why not lyrics from several voices simultaneously? Why, people might even have FUN with these files (heaven forbid)!!

Do you realize how useful these files could be with karaoke software?! I am a programmer and I see the arguments as "beside-the-point" and not at all insurmountable.  In fact, there may be no reason why more than one part's lyrics couldn't be saved and scrolled in a karaoke app in parallel.

Read my request where I address the programmer's objections. With all the lyric-typing I do I am disappointed/insulted that I can't export the lyrics with the midi. I have searched high and low and the closest software I can find to a solution is Serenade (http://www.1manband.nl/serenade/index.htm ) which is far from as perfect for this as MS would be. Please help promote the idea at (see https://musescore.org/en/node/290163 ) !!

Imagine if you could save lyrics with midi export as 2 options: "KAR file (MIDI File with lyrics)" and "KAR file with chords"

This is a request that goes back to at least 2015 and I have formally requested this feature again (see https://musescore.org/en/node/290163 ) - to create KAR files, and kar files with chords. This would allow us to use a real Karaoke Player, such as the free van Basco player (http://www.vanbasco.com/karaokeplayer/ ) app for practice, performance, learning, teaching, etc. It's high time for this feature after 10 years.

Do you realize the numbers of  school teachers, and church choir leaders would would find this useful for teaching, conducting parishioners, choruses etc.? And why not lyrics from several voices simultaneously? Why, people might even have FUN with these files (heaven forbid)!!

Do you realize how useful these files could be with karaoke software?! I am a programmer and I see the arguments as "beside-the-point" and not at all insurmountable.  In fact, there may be no reason why more than one part's lyrics couldn't be saved and scrolled in a karaoke app in parallel.

Read my request where I address the programmer's objections. With all the lyric-typing I do I am disappointed/insulted that I can't export the lyrics with the midi. I have searched high and low and the closest software I can find to a solution is Serenade (http://www.1manband.nl/serenade/index.htm ) which is far from as perfect for this as MS would be. Please help promote the idea at (see https://musescore.org/en/node/290163 ) !!

Imagine if you could save lyrics with midi export as 2 options: "KAR file (MIDI File with lyrics)" and "KAR file with chords"

This is a request that goes back to at least 2015 and I have formally requested this feature again (see https://musescore.org/en/node/290163 ) - to create KAR files, and kar files with chords. This would allow us to use a real Karaoke Player, such as the free van Basco player (http://www.vanbasco.com/karaokeplayer/ ) app for practice, performance, learning, teaching, etc. It's high time for this feature after 10 years.

Do you realize the numbers of  school teachers, and church choir leaders would would find this useful for teaching, conducting parishioners, choruses etc.? And why not lyrics from several voices simultaneously? Why, people might even have FUN with these files (heaven forbid)!!

Do you realize how useful these files could be with karaoke software?! I am a programmer and I see the arguments as "beside-the-point" and not at all insurmountable.  In fact, there may be no reason why more than one part's lyrics couldn't be saved and scrolled in a karaoke app in parallel.

Read my request where I address the programmer's objections. With all the lyric-typing I do I am disappointed/insulted that I can't export the lyrics with the midi. I have searched high and low and the closest software I can find to a solution is Serenade (http://www.1manband.nl/serenade/index.htm ) which is far from as perfect for this as MS would be. Please help promote the idea at (see https://musescore.org/en/node/290163 ) !!

Save lyrics with midi export as 2 options: "KAR file (MIDI File with lyrics)" and "KAR file with chords"

This is a request that goes back to at leastr 2015 and I have formally requested this feature again - to create KAR files (see https://musescore.org/en/node/290163), and Kar files with chords. Do you realize the numbers of  school teachers, and church choir leaders would would find this useful for teaching, conducting parishioners, choruses etc.? And why not lyrics from several voices simultaneously?

Do you realize how useful these files could be with karaoke software?! I am a programmer and I see the arguments as "beside-the-point" and not at all insurmountable. Read my request where I address the programmer's objections. With all the lyric-typing I do I am disappointed/insulted that I can't export the lyrics with the midi. I have searched high and low and the closest software I can find to a solution is Serenade (http://www.1manband.nl/serenade/index.htm) which is far from as perfect for this as MS would be. Please help!

Scores crash page within 10 seconds but only on mobile, works fine on desktop. Similar scores work perfectly.

https://musescore.com/thateuphoniumguy/sagat_theme_pep_band
https://musescore.com/thateuphoniumguy/dee_jay_theme_pep_band

These are the most recent of a series of pep band music, the 8th and 9th respectively. Every single one has worked until these two, which reload the page automatically within 10 seconds. It tries to load it again before giving up. The playback works correctly until the page reloads. This only happens on mobile, but on my desktop there are no problems. Is there any reason why this may be happening? There’s nothing setting these apart from the other arrangements and I’ve tried polishing up the files and reuploading. Any help would be appreciated.

MuseScore 2.1
Apple OS 12.1.4 (on multiple devices, untested on android)
El Capitan for my desktop

You Tube, Chrome, and MuseScore [Resolved]

In response to a bug report of mine yesterday about what seems to have been a temporary problem, DanielR (his name doesn't at-sign complete) informed me that Chrome and/or YouTube (both Google products) have implemented a policy change that refuses to embed YouTube videos, which is the present MuseScore technology for coupling score playbacks to sounds produced by other means (e.g., advanced DAW's, Virtual Pipe Organs).  If that's, as Cronkite used to say "the way it is" forever, this is a massive setback.  Not so much for contributors to this site like myself, but for visitors directed to it who will have no idea what's going on when a carefully-produced score refuses to play. I have verified that a YT score which works in FF just hangs in Chrome.

If the report is accurate
, two courses of action present themselves. First, the site page scripting should detect this, and not offer the player bar, but instead, substitute a box saying "You-Tube backed score cannot be played on Google Chrome. Please use a different browser."

Secondly, the policy of prohibiting the MP3 upload connection of arbitrary, non-MS-produced sound to score playback needs reassessment in light of this development.  "Scores with good sound can't be played on Chrome" is a horrific state of affairs.  Is that true for Google Android as well?

This seems to be Google saying "You can't use YT content this way, at least as long as we have anything to say about it", and i wonder when the other shoe will drop and you won't be able to embed YT content at all, in any browser. If the report is accurate, YouTube is no longer a viable solution to pairing MuseScore with more capable performance engines.

Playback foulup

Four days ago I noticed a new style of font on the comments section of my page. I figured it was your new Spring look, but now whenever I want to play a piece of mine or elsewhere one of three things happens:
1) The blue line begins to race across the page before I press play and it plays with the scroll 8 or so bars ahead; 2) it stutters or does not play; 3) It plays (eureka!)
Hardly a good way to entice listeners, wouldn't you say?
Sometimes it stalls and it takes forever to leave the page.

Until this occurrence all had been fine. I have rebooted and my PC seems to be fine in all other aspects. I use Windows 10, Firefox and ver 2.3.2.

The little jewels within Mozart's music treasure chest

Many pieces from Mozart are amongst the most beautiful things that can be eared, for these who are receptive to at least.
But there are also pieces from him which won't procure that undescriptible feeling ( mix of ecstasy/peace and achievement. Plus the need of earing more of it ;) ) 

I am not particularly fond of the second movement of Symphony nb.25 for example. It's fine, but in my opinion it lacks something, or I don't get that thing, for any reason. 
I just feel this Andante won't really start and tell the story, or if it does, it seems it couls have been much more than that.
But, and this is the subject of this topic, there is this small passage within, which is beyond everything else in those 70 bars.
I mean, that's precisely the moment I am waiting for when listening to this movement.  I wished so hard Mozart would have  develop further this absurdely simple but at the same time heavenly beautiful theme!
Here it is:

https://musescore.com/user/31180682/scores/5593079

Would be fun to point out further "magic" passages in other Mozart's compositions. There are so many!
The problem is cutting them to put  here in the topic ( needs some audio editing or score writing,  this last one being an excellent exercise )

Review of a little ticklish song afeter reading about harmony

 
I've been studing (by myself) harmony and composition by Arnold Schoenberg and revised an old song I made:https://musescore.com/user/2458231/scores/5543724
Any mistakes?
How can I make it more pleasing to hear?
Any better books on composition?
Waht do you think of the litte song? (the intent is to imitate the act of tickling, there is even a feather kkkk)

Are parallel [perfect] fifths and octaves ever acceptable, or ever seen or heard?

A member here asked me this morning, “Are parallel octaves and [perfect] fifths ever OK? Will I ever see them?”, and I thought a polished answer belongs here.

There are genres, such as rock and roll, where parallel chords going up or down the guitar neck are wholly idiomatic — so-called “power chords”, as well as the bass-scalar beginning of Bob Dylan’s Like a Rolling Stone (does that count as “classical” yet?).  In most kinds of Jazz, block chords moving in parallel are no problem at all, especially chromatically. Or heavy, two-handed keyboard chords in eight or ten parts in romantic or modern music.

In classical music, there are "octave/unisono" passages, such as the opening of Bach's D minor harpsichord concerto BWV 1052, or that of the famous D minor Toccata BWV 565, where all parts are in octaves for several measures, as well as countless concerti by Vivaldi and others. The unisono opening of Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony, or that of Mozart’s Eine kleine Nachtmusik , literally could not be more famous (those don't count as "parallel octaves"). But not perfect fifths.

Between lines of hymns (4-voiced “chorales”), i.e., after a fermata, Bach not infrequently allows voices to proceed in otherwise unacceptable parallels; the mind of the listener is usually expected to “clear its table/buffer” at such points (but not always).  Try here http://www.bach-chorales.com/ConsecutivesInChorales.htm for a discussion of parallel fifths in Bach Chorales.

And in symphonic music (but not classical/baroque), there are places where one instrument (in a fuller texture) doubles another at the octave, in the manner of "octave" organ stops (e.g., flute/bassoon), but that is "romantic era" gesture. And, of course, many orchestrations involve two different instruments playing the same part in unison. In many Bach cantatas, the continuo and vocal bass go "in and out" of tracking each other in exact unison, which causes occasional small passages to "look like" consecutive unisons amidst a seeming run of independence.   But not fifths.

And there are cases of “parallels at larger note values”, where the parallel intervals are not directly adjacent, but other notes intervene between them, which may or may not be acceptable depending upon the specific notes and context, and their acceptability may be contentious: "Sounds like fifths to me!". "Well, not to me."

There is a cadential anticipation gesture that causes parallel fifths between the melody and a descending seventh, where parallel perfect fifths are, remarkably, tolerated (e.g., https://www.bach-chorales.info/BachChorales/B361.html bar 4).  And there is a case of the resolution of so-called "German Augmented Sixth" chords where they are inevitable, and occur so regularly in Mozart's oeuvre that they are sometimes called "Mozart fifths".

Parallels and unplanned doubling are also permitted between continuo right-hands (realizations) and obbligato instruments and voices (but the RH must be contrapuntally rigorous with its own LH, i.e., the common bass line); the real-time continuo "realizer" is not supposed to be aware of those parts; this is a complex subject; see my many continuo realizations posted here for examples (note that usually realizations are not "written", so you won't "see" them).

And then there is the matter of “direct fifths/octaves”, not exactly parallel, but similar motion into a perfect interval leaving the forbidden unsaid but implied, whose acceptability varies from style to style, composer to composer, and time to time, and with respect to which Bach is considerably more lenient than the theorists of his time.

And occasionally, composers make errors.

Otherwise, the answer, for contrapuntal writing of putatively independent parts,  is just NO, if you want your work to resemble that of composers who held fast to this guideline.

Update Request for the musescore.com Player

Hi. Since there are some bugs in the MuseScore Software (3.0.x). I wasn't able to adjust my scores right. Those bugs are fixed in the 3.1 version.
However, when I upload my scores, they are messed up again, because the player here is not updated yet.
Could you please do this? It's frustrating.

screenshots here
https://musescore.org/en/node/289781

scores here
https://musescore.com/stm-the-scores/scores/5587182
https://musescore.com/stm-the-scores/scores/5584322