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Quality of musescore.com Midi playback
JChiefNote - Jun 22, 2011
Is there a way that the midi on musescore.com plays back the scores with the midi on the program itself?
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Is there a way that the midi on musescore.com plays back the scores with the midi on the program itself?
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The playback on musescore.com currently comes from an mp3 which is processed on the backend servers using the default TimGM6mb.sf2 soundfont.
We are thinking however how to improve playback and the potential solution is to upload the audio file along with the score when you 'save online' in MuseScore. Does that sound a good idea?
I think it's a good idea. Will there be any mechanism for updating the audio file of the already existing scores?
We are working on a mechanism to update your existing scores directly from MuseScore, instead of manual upload as it is right now. But we want to do it right so it takes time.
While we are working on this, we're making sure the path is open for adding the audio upload feature as well.
Yes, great idea; but I think we should have an option in the software itself to convert to mp3, rather than having to go to the website to do so. This is pretty standard in notation softwares that allow playback. People want to listen to my pieces, but currently I don't have a way of giving them the best playback sound. I think this issue is crucial in making MuseScore a desired software. I think it will become much more popular if there were better playback options, and more available sound fonts to choose from. If there is a current way that I can convert my current compositions to mp3 on my computer, I would like to know about it.
Another issue, Thomas is when I post my piano concerto scores I don't get the same volume settings from my original score, such that the piano can hardly be heard (even though it's set at full volume while the orchestra is set at 1/4 to 1/3 volume). I've tried readjusting the volume levels, saving and updating my posting to no avail. You can hear this problem if you listen to my piano concerto adagio piece. It's really quite annoying, because I'd like people to be able to hear it as close to how it should be heard. Hey, thanks for listening to feedback though, I know you people are doing your best to meet all these demands.
Preferably FLAC instead of mp3... or Ogg Vorbis for small files.
Perhaps include a tool for volume leveling/editing along with this export... giving composers more control over dynamics.
It is too much to ask, but perhaps also giving the option to edit velocity, decay, etc. for midi (basically advanced midi editing) would be a way to really distinguish MuseScore (though I think Sibelius does this or it's on the way?).
Hey, I have a problem with the sounds of the instruments on MuseScore.
I was about to compose a Piano Sonata and when I tried to put in the first note, it sounded almost inaudible. It also sound like a wind instrument, when I wanted a Piano sound.
Is there any way to fix that problem?
@ARobinsonization For MuseScore software support, visit the forums at http://musescore.org/en/forums You'll get a much quicker and adequate answer there.
Bran92405 asks if it is possible to make an mp3. If you have a Mac, you can export a midi file from Musescore, then import it into Garageband (or Logic) and make an mp3. There's tools for converting midi to mp3 for other OS. Of course it would be great if you
could make an mp3 do from Musescore using Soundfonts.
Here's an mp3 of the Arietta from Beethoven's Opus 111.
http://match.stanford.edu/bump/MuseScore/Arietta32.mp3
The Musescore original is posted in
http://musescore.com/groups/the-beethoven-piano-sonatas
the same thing bump said is possible on PC with FL Studio (I know 9 & 10 do it but not sure about previous versions).
You can export WAV or FLAG or OGG (?) from MuseScore, and any of these can be converted to MP# using freeware converters on any platform. Don't use MIDI, or you may lose some of the performance data, and will not be able to use the same soundfont you use in MuseScore.
Is the copywrite legal and binding? I thought there was a little more to it than that. I guess I don't understand. I get the differences between the licenses but doesn't there have to be some form of documentation?
Meanwhile, what about giving users the option of uploading their mp3's manually, i.e. through their browsers instead of directly through the MuseScore application, the way it can already be done with .MSCZ files?
See Thomas' comment toward the beginning of this thread (and similar comments elsewhere). It seems this sort of facility is being considered for the future.
Is Musescore working on a improvement for TimGM6withDL? Because I uploaded a score using that soundfont and I don't hear any of the Drumline's playback on any score that has the same soundfont.
@zekejacks There is currently no work being done to improve the TimGM6withDL soundfont, but instead there is an effort to make a new one. Read more at http://musescore.org/en/forum/776
The problem you are reporting however is not related with the soundfont but with the fact that MuseScore does not store your mixer settings in the file. As of MuseScore 2.0, when you'll upload a score to the site, the mixer settings will be taken into account and the score audio will be rendered as you defined, at least with the default soundfont.
In case you didn't use the default soundfont, we are still investigating our options. See an earlier comment at http://musescore.com/groups/improving-musescore-com/discuss/20498#commen...
Thomas wrote:
> We are thinking however how to improve playback and the potential solution is to upload the > audio file along with the score when
> you 'save online' in MuseScore. Does that sound a good idea?
It sounds like a great idea. In another thread I once suggested adapting your existing videoscore technology to work with Soundcloud as it does now with YouTube. Of course being able to upload your own mp3 would be just as good.
Does this mean that a way to hear our songs with our own dynamics and soundfonts within musescore.com is in the works? If so, I think that'd improve musescore.com IMMENSELY.
Dynamics have always been supported - if you create your score in such a way that it plays back with dynamics on your computer, it will also play back with dynamics on musescore.com. That requires you to actually imsert dynamics into your score, and in the case of crescendo and diminuendo, use the available plugin (see plugins menu on musescore.org) or other means to get them to playback.
As for soundfonts, the statement above is saying they don't plan to add more soundfonts to musescore.com, but they are comsidering just allowing your to upload your own audio file of the playback of your score on your computer, and use that for playback on musescore.com. So if you are using your own soundfont, the n yes, that would be what people would hear. But I have no idea if this feature is still being worked on.
Ok, so my current piece I'm working on (The tide of cold fire) has 4 instruments. One of them is a steel guitar and I use the fluid soundfont. I noticed in the musescore playback on this website that part won't play. More importantly, if I try to change the instrument to any other in the mixer in the musescore program, it becomes silent, and I'd really like to be able to hear what the part sounds like as a piano sound without having to rewrite a whole other part.
It's going to be hard to guess what might be going on without seeing the score. And since this seems to be more of an issue you are having with MuseScore itself than with the musescore.com sharing site (otherwise, changing to another nstrument would work), you should probably post on the support forums for MuseScore over at musescore.org
> More importantly, if I try to change the instrument to any other in the mixer in the musescore program, it becomes silent, and I'd really > > like to be able to hear what the part sounds like as a piano sound without having to rewrite a whole other part.
You could try creating a instrument (say piano) and pasting the notes from the part that won't play into the new staff.
Also double check that the part didn't somehow accidentally get muted in the mixer, though it doesn't sound like that's
the problem.
I agree with the numerous suggestions of finding a way for MuseScore.com to allow uploads of audio files corresponding to the .mscz scores being uploaded. It would make the scores sound much better, and also, it would help lessen the need of extra videoscores and links to other sites just to hear the intended sound.
In reference to the "Preferably FLAC instead of mp3... or Ogg Vorbis for small files" by Calem Bendell, I think that the audio files supported should support both MP3, and similar and FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, and similar to those. I understand that it could be a bit harder to support AAC files, but if possible, those should be as well.
@Andrew Isn't that already essentially done with videoscores?
@Andrew Ok...I didn't read the part of your previous comment that specified "in comments", but now that I know that, it is a good idea. On the other hand, it seems like that would make sense to implement it on the upload screen than in the comments. The code to implement the feature would be similar in either case, but it would make a lot more sense to have it on the upload screen than comments, though. Also, I didn't exactly register the "SoundCloud" part of it, but when it comes to videoscores, part of that is already somewhat implemented (and has been for a while).
I apologize for misreading that comment horribly.